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Closeouts With Class�
An Interview with CWC Industries Mark Ginsberg

By Robert Nordstrom

CWC equals Closeouts with Class.

            In 1993, when the Ginsberg family divested their interests in a large publicly traded company with whom their earlier jobbing company had merged in 1986, they agreed to reincorporate under a name that reflected who they were and always had been as a family business. Although the CWC in CWC Inventories may be an acronym that not everyone knows the meaning of, brothers Mark and Bruce Ginsberg, brother-in-law Tom Diedrich, and father Frank Ginsberg view their family company�s name as an ideal that they must live up to in each and every business transaction.

            Founded in 1973 under the name Frank Ginsberg Enterprises, St. Louis, Missouri-based CWC Inventories today services over 2000 accounts ranging from mom and pop stores to multi-store chains with a broad array of hardlines, grocery, and apparel goods. For small retail operations that want a single case to experiment with new product, CWC is there to service them. And if a chain operation needs to feed 2000 stores, CWC will deliver container loads to meet their needs.

            As Mark Ginsberg says, �We believe in providing impeccable customer service. It�s not just about price; it�s about value. Without value in your method of doing business, you become nothing but a commodity.�

 

From a Regional to National Operation

            In 1973, when Frank Ginsberg opened Frank Ginsberg Enterprises after a 35-year stint in the discount retail business, Frank leveraged his relationships with the brand name manufacturers that had supplied his 49-store chain to help them move problem inventories quietly, efficiently and without threat to their main distribution channels. Many of these relationships continue to this day.

            At that time, there was an emerging class of closeout retail stores hungry for brand name merchandise. In the beginning, the business was primarily regional, as was the case for most jobbers at that time. Then in 1975, with son Mark Ginsberg out of college and working the business, they were introduced to a West Coast retailer who suggested they take exhibit space at the TransWorld Show in Chicago.

            �That was great advice,� says Mark. �Attending trade shows is the most successful strategic move we ever made.�

            The move turned the company from a regional into a national operation. The Ginsbergs augmented their sales staff based in St. Louis with a network of sales reps throughout the country and the company was off and running.

 

You Need It�We�ve Got It

            Until the 1990s, the company focused strictly on brand name closeouts in the hardlines area, with a broad selection of gifware, housewares, hardware, and lighting. When Mark�s brother Bruce joined the company in the early �90s, he convinced management to move into grocery, sporting goods, and team apparel.

            According to Mark, �this is when we really started to grow.� The company doubled its sales volume from $11 million to $21 million from 1993 to 1995. And with product diversification, the company�s customer base expanded dramatically; CWC became a one-stop shop for its retail customers.

            �We�re a closeout jobber,� says Mark. �We�re buying opportunities all the time. Possession of goods in our warehouse is critical. We research the merchandise, purchase it, inspect it when it comes in, so when our salespeople are out there selling it, they and our customers know that we are representing our goods accurately.�

            The company carries approximately 3,500 skus at all times. In terms of dollars, 40% is in hardlines, 40% in grocery and health and beauty, 10% in sporting goods, and 10% in team apparel.

 

Impeccable Customer Service

            In today�s competitive retail environment, vendors must focus on impeccable customer service to survive. CWC offers open credit terms and takes credit cards if necessary. The company will take a $300 order for a few cases or will deliver a container load, depending on what the customer wants and needs. With freight rates skyrocketing, the company offers a prepaid freight plan to ease the burden on the customer. For the larger chains, CWC is EDI capable and prepared to handle special packaging and labeling requirements.           

            �If you want to continually grow your customer base,� says Mark, �you must do what the customer requires and do it well. We�re a one-stop shop. Small, medium, or large retailers can buy a little bit of everything from us. From the beginning we�ve focused on better goods as opposed to strictly on price. We�ll sell a $375 brand name telescope for $75, Timex clock radios, Tramontina cookwear, Rival appliances, Paul Mitchell shampoo and conditioner, authentic Cadre sports jerseys.

            CWC prides itself in finding new and exciting inventory as well as making merchandising and promotional suggestions for its customers. For example, Mark says, �If a team apparel retailer is buying Yankees jackets, he might take a look at a headphone set. He can retail it at 50% off for the customer who wants to listen to the game while he�s at the game. Or maybe the customer will pick up a cocktail table, a folding chair and a 24-pack cooler with the Yankees logo on it to use at a barbeque because he can�t make it to the game that day. That�s our niche. That�s what we�re good at.�

 

Staying on Top of Technology

            To manage its broad product categories, CWC has always invested in state-of-the-art technologies. Inventory control is a critical issue and must be updated in real time to allow the sales staff to serve their customers knowledgeably and efficiently. Two years ago, the company began using sales order scanning system at the tradeshows.

            �At the ASD Show,� Mark says, �we bring all 3500 items in our inventory. It can take a retailer two hours to start at one end and go to the other end of our booth. If the salesperson is hand writing product descriptions and prices, he isn�t able to speak with the customer. Now, the salesperson can scan the UPC code on any item and it automatically brings the item up on the order entry screen in a fraction of the time it took to write an order by hand. It gives the customer the product description, pricing, weight�everything he needs while automatically updating the inventory for the next salesperson walking through with a customer. Now there is very little variance between what we sell and what we ship.�

 

Trade Shows versus Showrooms�Striking a Balance

            CWC�s main showroom and 225,000 square foot warehouse is in St. Louis, but the company also maintains permanent showrooms in Chicago, New York, Boston, and Miami. The company did not always maintain so many showrooms. In the 1970s and 80s, CWC�s primary means of face-to-face contact was through its tradeshow business, to the point where the company was attending 12-15 shows a year. As the quality of some of the tradeshows declined, however, the company opened up showrooms in strategic cities in order to maintain face-to-face contact with customers.

            According to Mark, �Showrooms are nice�they give you the ability to meet with customers in a relaxed, private setting. In hindsight, however, they do not generate new customers the way tradeshows can. We�ve learned that we can�t rely solely on tradeshows for growth. We also know that while showrooms have value, you can�t grow your business on showroom business with established customers only. You have to have balance. You need tradeshows run by professionals who know how to bring retailers to the market where you can meet new customers and generate new business.�

            Today, CWC shows its product at five shows per year: two ASD Shows and three Off-Price Specialist Shows�both Apparel and Home & Gift. The company joined the apparel show in 1997, when they moved into team apparel, and has been with the home and gift show since its launch in May 2004.

            When CWC first attended the Off-Price Apparel Shows, they brought only team apparel product. Over the years, however, they found that many attendees were interested in other product as well.

            Mark says, �What would happen is small independent retailers would stop by our booth and say �I see in your brochure that you have other product. Call me if you get something exciting.� Even the larger, more structured companies will sometimes refer other category buyers to us. The shows have been a home run for us�and we love that the Home & Gift Show is joining the Apparel Show in August. For the past three May Home & Gift Shows, we�ve doubled our volume every show.�

 

Retailers, Vendors and Employees�They�re All CWC�s Customers

            CWC views quality customer service broadly as a three-prong approach involving retailers, vendors, and employees. While it goes without saying that a company must always be there for its paying customers, vendor relationships are just as critical. Successful jobbers are the first telephone number vendors look up on their rolodex when they have goods to move. Because jobbers are paying less for the goods than a retailer, they must also assume more risk. They must pick up the goods faster, buy entire inventories, and pay quicker. They must avoid petty claims against vendors and always maintain a high level of integrity in their business dealings.

            �Nurturing our vendor relationships is one of the most critical issues for us,� says Mark. �We�ve been dealing with some of our vendors since 1973, and a few of our vendors deal with us exclusively when they have closeout goods.�

            Employees, the third factor in CWC�s three-prong approach to customer service, are key to the company�s long-term success. Of a staff of approximately 50 employees, CWC boasts several who have been with the company 15 years and several around 20 years. Ron Gravemann, vice president of sales, has been with the company 24 years, and Henry Hoeynck has been with CWC for 32 years. �It�s all about loyalty and we�re pretty proud of our commitment to our employees,� says Mark.

 

It�s All About Class

            The Ginsberg family prides itself on its history and reputation as a jobbing operation with �class� that will never sacrifice integrity for profit. From the very beginning CWC�s patriarch Frank Ginsberg understood that over the long term business goes up�business goes down, but a �classy� operation always transcends the vagaries of economies. Back in the 70s, Mark remembers, Frank Ginsberg exemplified that philosophy not only with the merchandise he sold and the business practices he followed�but in the clothes he and his staff wore.

            �My dad always believed in the closeouts with class idea. To the point where he had all of us dress in tuxedos when we exhibited at the old TransWorld Shows. Tuxedos in the closeout industry!�the second generation all hated the idea. But it was a brilliant idea and absolutely solidified our brand. To this day, when I run into one of our longstanding customers, they inevitably smile and say, �where�s the tuxedo?�